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2 mag 2020, 10:45
ErikH ha scritto: ↑
1 mag 2020, 23:24
Borders are closed since 2017 in Germany. Greece shows how its done. Germany supported Greece in blocking migrants out. Of you are to weak to,protect your borders, dont blame us. What you have a coast guard for? Maybe grow some balls and defend your border. Oh and silence that old and stupid man in vatican.
We dont accuse you of begging, you do beg. Italy begs to get german tax money. What else is euro bonds? Italy begged for german money.
I have no news of German aid to stop the invasion of illegal immigrants from Turkey into Greece, which remains alone to deal with the problem, which is instead a European one. Give us precise news, if you have any.
Italy does not defend borders because when it did (Berlusconi government) it was condemned by the European Court and because it is now governed by the left, supported by Bruxell, who wants open borders, as also Bruxell and the whole European left want .
The idea of common European debts appeals to the Italian left, while the right would prefer to leave Europe if it were possible.
But you don't answer the various observations I make above. I add the translation of my latest answer to Holubice, hoping that you will answer and clarify your position regarding the various problems, instead of giving childish answers.
At the beginning, nobody worried about the invasion of illegal immigrants, everyone thought about themselves and nobody thought about a common European interest. No one has considered Italian borders as even European borders, therefore a common problem to be addressed as a union, which would have been the most obvious thing, in my opinion, and this decreed the end of the union itself in the eyes of many people.
I do not know then that migrants were brought from the Italian state to the borders of other states; there was no need, simply no one took care of it and the migrants went where they wanted, with Italian relief of course, given that no one likes to be invaded, despite the leftist propaganda stating the opposite, including Merkel, that after the known episode of the Syrian refugee girl in tears, she abandoned a position of common sense, to embrace the most fanatic demagoguery, for her own power and for the ruin of Europe.
Then when Italy tried to defend itself, bringing migrants back to Libya, Europe condemned it (European Court sentence 2012) and this definitively disarmed us. The other countries then took advantage of the careless agreements on the matter, for which the immigrant is linked to the country of disembarkation and not of arrival and thus Italy has become the European refugee camp, together with Greece.
What is more serious is the indirect commitment of some European countries: Germany, Holland, France and Spain and others that I do not remember, who under humanitarian pretexts began to traffic directly, transporting illegal immigrants from Africa with their own ships and staff. to Italy, as also in these days and with sensational episodes and grotesque characters, such as Rackete.
Italy has completely lost its territorial sovereignty, also due to hypocritical and partisan interpretations of international agreements, under pressure from politically aligned international and European bodies, such that illegal trafficking would not be dirty, well organized business, as everyone knows, but rescue operations for real shipwrecks.
Illegal migration has become the primary theme of the political confrontation, within the states and within Europe, leading to the disintegration of the most involved countries, such as Greece and Italy, and of the European union itself.
I just hope we can get out of this swamp soon.